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12-30-2004, 11:29 AM
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Colonial Mentality aka “The White Man’s Ways Are Better!”
E be say you be colonial man
You don be slave from before
Dem don release you now
but you never release yourself
Colomentality
E be so , E be so dem dey do,
dem dey overdo all the things wey dem dey do
e be so dem dey do, dem think say dem better pass dem brother.
No be so?
E be so
The thing wey black no good
na foreign things dem dey like.
No be so?
*[CHORUS] EE BE SO/ I BE SO
Dem go turn Air Condition and close dem country away.
Na be so?
E be so
Dem judge him go put white wig and jail him brothers away
No be so?
E be so
Dem go proud of dem name and put dem slave name for head
No be so?
E be so
Colomentality now make you hear me now
*[CHORUS] COLO MENTALITY
Mr. Ransome you make you hear
Mr. Williams you make you hear
Mr. Alia you make you hear
Mr. Mohammed you make you hear
Mr. Anglican you make you hear
Mr. Bishop you make you hear
Mr. Catholic you make you hear
Mr. Muslim you make you hear
Na Africa we dey O make you hear
Na Africa we dey O make you hear
Colomentality hear
Colomentality! listen!
Mr. Ransome you make you hear
Na Africa we dey o make you hear this
(Lyrics from “Colomentality” by Fela Kuti)
So goes the song by Fela Kuti as he comes down on those, particularly the elites, who have embraced not only the mentality of their former colonizers, but have adopted his ways to the extent that they have pushed away their own native cultures and deemed them no good, backwards and primitive - all the while looking down their noses at those who they feel have not arrived.
While the intermixing of cultures is inevitable – bringing about positive benefits - some cultures still remain very protective of their heritage. Others do not.
You can not make a silk out of sow’s ear…goes old saying.
So why are some Africans trying to make themselves into what they are not and will never be?
As some people of color have asserted…
“The white man does not have to lift a finger to make Africans feel inferior…they are doing an excellent job themselves.”
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12-30-2004, 01:04 PM
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So why are some Africans trying to make themselves into what they are not and will never be?
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Becos they are ignorant!
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12-30-2004, 01:13 PM
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Hmm! But are all of "our" ways really worth keeping?
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12-30-2004, 01:40 PM
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Hmm! But are all of "our" ways really worth keeping?
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Shouldn't Africans themselves been allowed to come to that conclusion, without the input of the white man?
Why hand their brains over to those who have shown they don't have Africans' best interests at heart?
There is good and bad in all societies.
Is it not possible for Africans to embrace the good, while rejecting the bad?
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12-30-2004, 02:58 PM
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If the African way is better, then why are we full of
corruptness
lack of integrity
will to subversion
Evil and malicious ways
no regard for the law
Look at Ironsi, Gowon, Shagari, Babaginda, Abacha, OBJ, Ngige and Uba
Golden eaglet, Flying Eagle.
The same things happens in America, hey even in the Bible, but do Nigeria know how to prosecute, do we enforce our law, will you ship your car to Africa with no container, the key for a solution is law and order.
http://www.irinnews.org/report.asp?R...ountry=NIGERIA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3762334.stm
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a...corrupt.index/
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/e...ny.corruption/
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12-30-2004, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee of ATL
If the African way is better, then why are we full of
corruptness
lack of integrity
will to subversion
Evil and malicious ways
no regard for the law
Look at Ironsi, Gowon, Shagari, Babaginda, Abacha, OBJ, Ngige and Uba
Golden eaglet, Flying Eagle.
The same things happens in America, hey even in the Bible, but do Nigeria know how to prosecute, do we enforce our law, will you ship your car to Africa with no container, the key for a solution is law and order.
http://www.irinnews.org/report.asp?R...ountry=NIGERIA
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3762334.stm
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a...corrupt.index/
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/e...ny.corruption/
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Because of your colonial masters who brainwashed our people for century.
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12-30-2004, 03:19 PM
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Because of your colonial masters who brainwashed our people for century.
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Colonial master didn't teach us about sopona, Ogun -lakaye, Egunje and colonial master didn't pick the eaglet and under 20 players for us.
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12-30-2004, 03:26 PM
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Lee of ATL - If the African way is better, then why are we full of
corruptness
lack of integrity
will to subversion
Evil and malicious ways
no regard for the law
Look at Ironsi, Gowon, Shagari, Babaginda, Abacha, OBJ, Ngige and Uba
Golden eaglet, Flying Eagle.
The same things happens in America, hey even in the Bible, but do Nigeria know how to prosecute, do we enforce our law, will you ship your car to Africa with no container, the key for a solution is law and order.
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So...then...is the white man's way better for Africans?
Will there be an absence of...
-corruptness
-lack of integrity
-will to subversion
-Evil and malicious ways
-no regard for the law?
Will they be the ones to implement law and order in Nigeria?
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12-30-2004, 03:41 PM
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Colonial master didn't teach us about sopona, Ogun -lakaye, Egunje and colonial master didn't pick the eaglet and under 20 players for us.
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What is wrong with Sopona/Ogun? My good man a good sign of colonial mentality is when a person think things from their ancestorial heritage is bad because the masser siad it is.
What is Lakeye?
Egunje and the under 20 players bit is called fraud/corruption. Who taught us that? Western civilization aka the massers.
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To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, 'the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it.
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12-30-2004, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mistiblue88
So...then...is the white man's way better for Africans?
Will there be an absence of...
-corruptness
-lack of integrity
-will to subversion
-Evil and malicious ways
-no regard for the law?
Will they be the ones to implement law and order in Nigeria?
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We got our independences, so i believe we make our own law, to run a country is not easy for sure, but don't you want to see Babaginda in jail, don't you want Ngige uba, Ogbeh and OBJ to be out of the office due to conspiracy.
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12-30-2004, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by maverixz
What is wrong with Sopona/Ogun? My good man a good sign of colonial mentality is when a person think things from their ancestorial heritage is bad because the masser siad it is.
What is Lakeye?
Egunje and the under 20 players bit is called fraud/corruption. Who taught us that? Western civilization aka the massers.
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I believe Ogun and Sopona don't do possitive things
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12-30-2004, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee of ATL
We got our independences, so i believe we make our own law, to run a country is not easy for sure, but don't you want to see Babaginda in jail, don't you want Ngige uba, Ogbeh and OBJ to be out of the office due to conspiracy.
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A people can make their own laws all day long, BroLee, but there has to be a way to effectively implement them...which is not the case in Nigeria.
Hence the presence of...
-corruptness
-lack of integrity
-will to subversion
-Evil and malicious ways
-no regard for the law
So who do you call?
Ol' Massa?!
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12-30-2004, 04:03 PM
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Now Now Now, I am totally confused  about Mistiblue's descent. At times, she sounds African-American, at times she sounds African. Me was thinking she is African-American, now this Fela song........Mistiblue, don't throw your sista in confusion! Tell me!!
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12-30-2004, 04:07 PM
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Hmm..interesting topic.
mistiblue88:
"So why are some Africans trying to make themselves into what they are not and will never be?"
What exactly do you mean?
Can you please illustrate with examples?
"Is it not possible for Africans to embrace the good, while rejecting the bad?"
Again what exactly is the definition of the good and the bad in this context?
For instance, adopting the use automobile is good, what stops the adoption of the infrastructure that ensures its safe, efficient use?
"So...then...is the white man's way better for Africans?"
I don't think the white man's way is necessarily better for Africans, but I think the modern way is good for ALL humanity.
The question may be: is the white man's way and the modern way one and the same?
If not, why not?
Maverixz:
"Egunje and the under 20 players bit is called fraud/corruption. Who taught us that? Western civilization aka the massers."
When were we taught this fraud and corruption?
Was there something deficient in our ways and culture that made us susceptible to these teachings?
Are we different in some way from the rest of humanity?
My two cents on old ways:
Many things about the system of religion, justice, government and social norms in the old ways will be abhorrent to many of us today.
Even those of us who defend the "old ways".
Most males will chafe at the idea of their being responsible for the wives and children of their deceased polygamous father.
We will scream blue murder if our virgin daughter or sister is to be sacrificed for one deity or the other.
Many of us do not even know these "old ways" we are bandying about.
Nor do most of our parents or grandparents.
In fact it may be that our refusal to totally forsake our old ways is responsible for our present predicaments.
We can choose to bash the white man for all our woes, all well and good, but remember it is his ways (or modern ways) that allows us to do so, amongst other things.
Oya!!...what say you?
Happy New Year!!! 
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12-30-2004, 04:10 PM
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Now Now Now, I am totally confused  about Mistiblue's descent. At times, she sounds African-American, at times she sounds African. Me was thinking she is African-American, now this Fela song........Mistiblue, don't throw your sista in confusion! Tell me!!
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The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind...
...the answer is blowin' in the wind.

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